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414 views Posted by: 8 Toes in: general at: 02:53PM
Along with adding new features we are always looking for ways we can improve the site. With the last update, we changed the popup box to be centered in the browser and have an overlay behind it, dimming the rest of the site and making the popup box stand out more. This change made room in the bottom right corner for the notifications.

We have received some mixed feedback with the popup changes, and based on some of the feedback we have moved the popup box to the bottom center of the browser, closer to how it used to be.

We will be testing some layouts this week to see what is the best solution we can come up with, but we would love to hear any feedback you may have on this - your thoughts on the position of the popup box, the notifications and the overlay are all welcome.

Also one quick note, the live previews that were enabled for some content, such as editing forum posts, have temporarily been disabled with this update; they will be re-enabled within the next few days.
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Commented: Mar 25, 2008 @ 08:37AM
Hiya 8 Toes! I'm loving the most of changes so far, and now that the website scrolls behind the pop-up box, which is centrally located at the bottom of the screen, it's perfect! Don't change it! :)

Thank you for fixing the fixed location in the middle of the screen. It was quite ... annoying. The way it is right now is so much better. :)
Commented: Mar 25, 2008 @ 03:56PM
Toes, can you add a way to turn OFF that pop up notification box? I've had several members ask if there is some way to get rid of it entirely. Thanks!
Commented: Mar 26, 2008 @ 12:01AM
Hi Allannaa,

The notifications can be disabled by clicking on "Settings" (near the top right next to "Logout"), and then clicking on the Notifications tab. From there they can un-check all of the notifications and will no longer receive them.
Commented: Mar 27, 2008 @ 01:18PM
I like the idea of notifications. I'm still adjusting to having the editor's box bottom center. However, I'm not liking the overlay effect behind the editor's box. I've also noticed that if you go back or refresh the page, you receive (or re-receive whatever the case may be) the same notifications. Is this a limitation of ajax? i've also noticed on a few occasions that the prompt( the blinking vertical line) in the editor's box doesn't display as it should.

But all in all I like the improvements you guys have made so far.
Commented: Mar 27, 2008 @ 10:59PM
Hi Paelo,

Thanks for your feedback =)

For the overlay effect behind the edit box, we have received feedback from members who both like it and do not like it, so we are still deciding if it is best to keep it; in the meantime though,if you like you can disable it for your site with the custom css feature. If you load your theme into the theme editor, and click on the custom css button and add this line:

#overlay { visibility: hidden; }

then click apply, then apply that theme to your site it will disable the overlay.

For the notifications being reshown, this should have been a case where the IE browser was caching our requests and reshowing them; we pushed live a fix for this a day or two ago, so this should not still be occurring.

If it is still occurring for you, could you email me back (eight-toes@mmoguildsites.com) with some extra information regarding it (what web browser you use, which notification you saw repeat, how often it repeated (just once or non-stop)).

The blinking cursor not displaying all the time in the edit box is an issue we are currently attempting to reproduce and fix, as another member raised this to us yesterday.

update: cursor issue should now be fixed, you may need to press F5 on your browser while viewing the site to ensure your cache is cleared

Thank you again for your feedback =)
Commented: Mar 31, 2008 @ 02:12AM
Hi 8 Toes,

Really liking the UI tweaks and the notification features. Well done. The site does seem to have quite a few problems with Internet Explorer now though. Regularly I get scripting errors that say "Object Required". Resulting in some features not working. Reloading the page or even the browser fixes it though.
Commented: Mar 31, 2008 @ 04:11AM
Hi Bowen,

Thank you for reporting this issue, we had another member mention this IE javascript issue and I was able to reproduce it and had thought I fixed it, as it was no longer occurring for me, but it seems not >_<

I will spend some time today attempting to reproduce and fix this again, and will post back here, thanks again for reporting this =)
Commented: Mar 31, 2008 @ 06:00AM
It says it happens in line 3789, char 7. I also just got it on this very page.
Commented: Mar 31, 2008 @ 04:19PM
Oookay... My members are having more and more problems since the changes began. First and foremost -- and most dear to their hearts -- is the fact that Raid DKP isn't working. By this I mean, you can click "Standings" and refresh it, clear cookies, close browser, and so on, till your fingers fall off -- yet that total does not match the amount shown if the person clicks his own name and character page, and clicks the DKP stats tab, and refreshes, clears cookies, refreshes, logs out, logs in, freaks out... and so on.

The totals never match, no matter what -- and now even *I* am not sure who has what or has spent what or earned what.

Aside from that, there is a hideous slowdown on the raid page itself; it takes nearly 5 minutes to populate a raid from the dropdown list, where before, even I, with my dial up, could get it done in less than two minutes. Not only that, adding Items has become a nightmare. The system allows the first Item/Event to be added, but then after that, when you try to select the event for which the item was won, the dropdown goes to LOADING -- and stays there, till you either get mad and cancel, or get mad, and cancel, and then add it manually as an extra unclassified item.

Beyond that, pages no longer refresh immediately. For instance, if I move a raid roster from the forum "Points logs" to the forum "Points Archives" -- it USED to immediately refresh that thread and show it in the proper forum. It no longer does that, and the original forum itself, no longer updates when a post is moved -- thus creating the possibility for a raid to be entered once by me, and once by my admin officer, for "doubles".... unless we hit the browser refresh after literally every click or line of type.

What are we missing or doing wrong? All of this occurs both in Mozilla/Firefox and in Internet Explorer -- and my officers have the latest versions of both browsers. Heck, even *I* have the latest version sof both! So what are we goofing up, that is causing all these problems and slowdowns?
Commented: Apr 01, 2008 @ 04:58AM
Hi Allannaa,

Thank you for taking the time to write this.

For the DKP issue, and pages not matching, updating immediately; these all sound like symptoms of the caching issue we pushed live a fix for last night.

To be clear on the issue, the problem was with a setting with our Apache server, two different cache variables were being sent to the browser for pages, one saying to refresh immediately, and one saying to hold the page for 15 minutes; they were conflicting variables and in most cases firefox used the "refresh immediately" one and IE used the "hold page for 15 minutes" one.

This unfortunately would be the root of a lot of confusion on the site, and would cause a lot of the issues you mentioned; it should mostly be limited to IE but may have occurred in Firefox as well, as only one of the variables should have been sent and it would not be clear which one was used by the browser.

This has now been fixed and a system message was sent out last night to notify site owners of this, so this should not be occurring any longer; if you are still seeing this please send me an email.

The dropdown hanging on Loading for raid items may have been an issue with IE caching the ajax request, which we first noticed it may do with the notifications; I have pushed a fix live for this now to ensure updating buyers for items does not get cached, which should resolve this.

I have gone through your DKP standings and clicked on around 20 members and they are all reporting the same in the standings as their characters view; what you were seeing may have been a result of the page caching issue above, and if so should no longer be occurring. If you do notice any members who do not have the same dkp in the standings as their character stats please email me with the members it is occurring for.

Thank you again for this feedback, and sorry for the issues you have encountered; they appear to almost all be the result of the caching issue we had trouble with due to a misconfiguration of our web server; again this should now be fixed and hopefully these issues will no longer be occurring for you. If you do encounter any issues with your site don't hesitate to email me =)
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